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rodmonster
02-01-2009, 01:18 PM
Age old question.. ALL are divided...Who started METAL? Not Hard Rock...but METAL...
CharlestonNole
02-01-2009, 01:40 PM
IMHO, Led
Santa's Helper
02-01-2009, 01:56 PM
I gave my vote to BS. Mostly because I remember Ozzy more than LZ. Maybe it was Led but, I don't know. Ozzy gets my vote.
Wenceslaus
02-01-2009, 03:28 PM
The more I think about it, the more I say Black Sabbath. Love Led Zeppelin, but it's more hard rock and Delta blues-rock than heavy metal. You could even use the two bands to illustrate the fine difference between heavy metal and hard rock.
ScottCalvin
02-02-2009, 01:56 AM
It would have to be Zep
Minta
02-02-2009, 10:23 AM
Both are great bands but I went with BS/Ozzy.
Mr Walker
02-02-2009, 10:30 AM
Sabbath...
I don't really consider Zeppelin metal.
kelly ann
02-02-2009, 12:41 PM
ozzy is the god of metal
Meceka
02-02-2009, 12:51 PM
Interesting poll since both bands were formed in 1968 (a year the Tigers won the World Series ... sorry, somewhat baseball-obsessed!)- I went with Ozzy because like Wencelaus says, Zep is hard/Delta blues rock.
VeryWelshXmasLover
02-02-2009, 04:17 PM
I have deffo voted Black Sabbath! Awesome.
snowytree
02-03-2009, 11:39 AM
Don't know but Ill pick Black Sabbath.What about Iron Maiden and Judas Priest..I remember them . I was a young kid in the early 70s but I still remember them as well later on.
stevieray
02-03-2009, 01:45 PM
It's definetely Black Sabbath. Just like what other posters said. Zep is a blues band that turned their amp to eleven. <<<Spinal Tap humor!!

SR
ScottCalvin
02-03-2009, 03:15 PM
What about DEEP PURPLE they were around before Black Sabbath
Meceka
02-03-2009, 03:25 PM
What about DEEP PURPLE they were around before Black Sabbath
My research said that they were formed in 1968, too. I wonder if they influenced each other - then all could be said to have started "Heavy Metal".
Great band, btw. Thank you for bringing them up, ScottCalvin!
ScottCalvin
02-03-2009, 03:50 PM
Most bands seemed to be around from the same time, so it makes it hard to say that any particular were the founder of heavy metal it seems that a number could have that claim.

But this is turning into a good discussion to determine who.

Here is another to throw into the mix Steppenwolf formed in 1967 but their big hit 'Born to be Wild' in 1968 could it not be deemed the first 'heavy metal' song?
Wenceslaus
02-03-2009, 05:13 PM
The song "Born to Be Wild" does have the phrase "heavy metal thunder", but it's referring to the sound of motorcycles on the road, not to music. The song itself is what I'd call biker rock which, once upon a time, the Doobie Brothers were playing too.
ScottCalvin
02-04-2009, 01:58 AM
The song "Born to Be Wild" does have the phrase "heavy metal thunder", but it's referring to the sound of motorcycles on the road, not to music. The song itself is what I'd call biker rock which, once upon a time, the Doobie Brothers were too.

It was not he lyrics I was thinking off more the style the heavier guitar riffs compared to the those of the day
YellowSnow
02-04-2009, 09:25 AM
Black Sabbath.

As many have mentioned, LZ pioneered a very heavy blues style, especially with their debut album. Very bluesy.

Sabbath broke away form the 12-bar blues formula and develped a whole new sound that IS heavy metal. Even their lyrics were dark & mystical in a way that wasn't explored prior to BS. Also, T. Iommi pioneered "down-tuning" on his guitar. He did this to relieve the tension on the strings since he lost his fretting finger tips in an industrial accident. The result was a deeper, darker, more foreboding sound. Todays uber-heavy bands still use this technique to darken their sounds/tones.

YS