California City Removes Christmas

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The Encinitas, California City Council voted 3-2 Wednesday to strip the name Christmas from its December parade. After spending two years as the “Encinitas Christmas Parade,” the Dec. 1 event will return to the name it had used since the city began producing the event in 1993: The Encinitas Holiday Parade. In 2005, then-Mayor Dan Dalager [...] http://feeds.feedburner.com/~f/waronchristmas?i=sKbd0Ll4</img> (http://feeds.feedburner.com/~f/waronchristmas?a=sKbd0Ll4) http://feeds.feedburner.com/~f/waronchristmas?i=cwcVIQxP</img> (http://feeds.feedburner.com/~f/waronchristmas?a=cwcVIQxP)


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[joyfulheart]

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[Billy Battles]

If the parade was only to celebrate Christmas than it should be called a Christmas Parade,however if it celebrates all the Holidays than it should be called a Holiday Parade.

[gameshowguy2000]

If the parade was only to celebrate Christmas than it should be called a Christmas Parade,however if it celebrates all the Holidays than it should be called a Holiday Parade.

I don't mind it being called a Holiday Parade. It's just like with my Christmas Tree vs. Holiday Tree thread, and calling the Christmas season the Holiday season:

The Holiday season is about THREE holidays, and not just one (Thanksgiving, Christmas, AND New Year's; those who celebrate Hannukah and Kwanzaa can make it 5).

So the Tree represents those 3 holidays, as does the parade.

[Montana's Santa]

Holiday Parade would be appropriate if it celebrated all three (five) holidays... but I doubt you see any Thanksgiving, Kwanza, Hannukah or New Year's floats in the parade -- only Christmas floats... that makes it a Christmas parade.

[Chillywilly]

Many times we as a sociality forget about the people that started these events. I am sure if they wanted it to be a Holiday parade they would have named it that. If they would like an Holiday parade they should establish one. And not change what was already in place. That is just my fhoughts around that matter. :tree:

[Jeff Westover]

I'm not sure that's exactly right. Back when the parade was first founded it was a Christmas parade because the vast majority of citizens were Christmas celebrants. But the population in Encinitas has changed a ton since the parade's inception. Since none of us live there, I don't suppose our opinion on their parade matters much. I'm guessing that if it really upsets that many people they will either change the name or...the parade will die because of the apathy generated by watering down the meaning of the event.

[gameshowguy2000]

Holiday Parade would be appropriate if it celebrated all three (five) holidays... but I doubt you see any Thanksgiving, Kwanza, Hannukah or New Year's floats in the parade -- only Christmas floats... that makes it a Christmas parade.

Well, the Macy's Parade would be a holiday parade at the very least, as you find Thanksgiving AND Christmas floats there (same deal with the ones in Chicago, Houston, and Detroit)

[SC]

I don't mind it being called a Holiday Parade. It's just like with my Christmas Tree vs. Holiday Tree thread, and calling the Christmas season the Holiday season:

The Holiday season is about THREE holidays, and not just one (Thanksgiving, Christmas, AND New Year's; those who celebrate Hannukah and Kwanzaa can make it 5).

So the Tree represents those 3 holidays, as does the parade.

Since you posted this same response on ClausNET, I feel obligated to provide the same reply here...

When exactly did the Christmas Tree become a symbol or decoration for Thanksgiving, Hannukah, Kwanzaa, and/or New Years? By your logic, a Menorah should be a symbol of Christmas.

Kwanzaa was created in 1966 as a festival to honor African American heritage. Ron Karenga, the creator of Kwanzaa publicly stated that "Jesus was psychotic" and that Christianity was a white religion that blacks should shun. It has nothing to do with the celebration of the birth of Christ.

And yes, I know Jewish people that put up Christmas Trees. But only in homes that celebrate both holidays. They also put up a Menorah. And they don't refer to the Menorah as a Holiday Menorah.

You can call it the "holiday season" and "holiday parade" if it makes you feel better about yourself. But there is no reason to refer to a Christmas Tree as a Holiday Tree.

[chanelsmile112298]

Since you posted this same response on ClausNET, I feel obligated to provide the same reply here...

When exactly did the Christmas Tree become a symbol or decoration for Thanksgiving, Hannukah, Kwanzaa, and/or New Years? By your logic, a Menorah should be a symbol of Christmas.

Kwanzaa was created in 1966 as a festival to honor African American heritage. Ron Karenga, the creator of Kwanzaa publicly stated that "Jesus was psychotic" and that Christianity was a white religion that blacks should shun. It has nothing to do with the celebration of the birth of Christ.

And yes, I know Jewish people that put up Christmas Trees. But only in homes that celebrate both holidays. They also put up a Menorah. And they don't refer to the Menorah as a Holiday Menorah.

You can call it the "holiday season" and "holiday parade" if it makes you feel better about yourself. But there is no reason to refer to a Christmas Tree as a Holiday Tree.

OO great points.

[Ladybugkisses]

This country has gotten the whole holiday of Christmas screwed up over the last few years. While it's okay to celebrate everybody else's holidays and call them by their rightful names it has become a crime to celebrate the Christmas season and all of it's traditions and that includes calling the Christmas parade a "Christmas Parade" or the Christmas tree a "Christmas Tree". It's almost silly. Really if people have serious issue over what is celebrated in the country they have several options, 1) stay where they are; don't bother to come; 2) come, but don't participate in the celebrations and 3) learn that like so many countries we have many, many traditions that go back for generations to come in and think you have the right to come and change that is a crime the word toleration should come into your mind. We each have to tolerate some practices we may or maynot believe in but that doesn't mean that they sould be called something else or thrown out completely.

Toya